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"All the ways we break our hearts." Thank you for this offering. I will be listening in to the podcast later today.

Also, these verses:

"the utterances of green, fresh as the leaf in spring, the birth of

a spirit that did not know its name"

Beautiful. I'm thinking of interviewing you for my memoir, particularly since seeing you discuss Dr. Hart and what I'm learning about the less-popular but widely successful approaches to recovery that involve mindfulness, guided drug use, and other alternative resources. I'll visit your website soon and book some time when I have my thoughts more together.

Such a joy to be in community with you,

Sheree

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